I've had a lot of time with the 2011 ONOFF Forged Irons and really feel they are one of the most underrated irons on the market. It's all about Forgiveness and Feel. It's produced by Endo and forged of S20C, it actually feels softer than the majority of Endo irons. Think Epon AF-302 yet a little softer, yes it's that good and I actually prefer it over the 302. Right now the new TourStage 905CB and these ONOFF Forged irons will be battling it out for a spot in my bag. It's already obvious that these are better for my game because they are more forgiving. Oh what to do...
Distance: The lofts are on the stronger side the PW comes in at 45. It has a higher trajectory due to tungsten weighting in the sole which provides lot's of carry. I tested them with the NS950's which also fly on the higher side for even more distance. What was interesting is that neither Tatz ( Tatsuro ) or myself had any issues with ballooning and he swings very fast and plays X100's. I'm considering these irons with high kick low trajectory heavy graphite.
Forgiveness: Shockingly good, I was able to compare this to the Epon AF-702 and the Fourteen 550. The ONOFF Forged Irons ranked up there with them in ease of use. Not as stupid forgiving like the AF-702 but pretty close to the Fourteen's. I noticed lower toe misses were still soft and didn't lose much distance. The 3-7 irons all have that tungsten insert, Just as forgiving as much bigger irons yet in a smaller and sexier design. The amount of tungsten weight in the insert is impressive #3-5 is 27 grams and the #7 iron is at 22 grams. That's a lot of weight and it's spread over the entire length of the sole.
Feel: Very soft but not mushy at all. It's one of the best feeling irons I have hit in years if not ever. It sit's atop my list of the most rewarding feel at impact. It's like a cross of the overly soft Mizuno feel and the firm impact of Endo produced irons. Not much more to say than if you have the chance to hit them let us know what you think. I know myself and Tatz were absolutely in love with how great they felt. Of course we can partially give credit to the NS950 but I hit so many irons with that shaft I know when the heads a standout in feel.
Trajectory/Dispersion: Straight and easy to handle, the trajectory was not overly high as well with it being their pro model iron. Shingo is playing a modified more edgy version of this very club. Anything going too high could be easily adjusted with the proper shaft, The dispersion is definitely 10 out of 10 and I think just about anywhere on the club face has a good chance of going straight. The club was fairly workable and how I usually test that is is by hitting hooks and slices with long irons intentionally.
Design: Overall I love this design, it's shape, it's forgiveness and feel. I like how they jammed so much perimeter sole weighting yet kept it what I would call a medium sized players cavity. It's similar to the Ryoma concept and how they place 60 grams in the back of their driver. This isn't as extreme but 27-22 grams is a lot of weighting. I'm seriously considering bagging this iron and the only thing in it's way is the new 905 Limited CB by TourStage. I'm gonna give the 905's at least 2-3 rounds before making my decision and update my WITB.
This must be the best looking wedge out there. Good shape and style.
C, thanks for the review and especially the video! Similar conclusions to my review from back in January. Very soft iron with tons of forgiveness.
The new ONOFF forged actually has less tungsten in the sole. The previous generation had a lot more at 45g and 40g in the long and mid irons which considerably increased launch. They purposely lessened the weight but deepened the cavity in this new model which allows for a more stable and stronger trajectory also increasing spin along the way.
I would personally take the ONOFF over the 905CB as they aim at two different crowds. The soft feel and forgiveness of the ONOFF is certainly much suited to an average golfer and improving player.
By the way finally a much less windy day for you at Tats!
Are these more forgiving than AF 302′s?
How would these compare to VG3′s?
Thank you!
More forgiving than the AF-302 but not quite as forgiving as the VG3 with undercut cavity and stronger lofts.
In my opinion that is. (^_^)
Cool. Any idea of the weights of the actual heads are standard or heavier? With the new graphite iron shafts around, heavier heads would be a plus.
It should be heavier for graphite.
Is it possible to order a set of roddio pentacross directly from onoff?
Yes we can special order it with any Roddio shaft and custom specs for you. The new Roddio’s look awesome they have one in the 120g range!
How’s the pentacross? I’ve only used Ozik Program as graphite shaft but torque rating seems lot higher than any other higher end graphite shaft. Also how does it play to flex? It seems like higher graphite iron shaft plays stiffer to true flex.
Hi James,
Just wondering how is feel the matrix program 95 fitted to onoff 2011 which am about to get and shaft it.My old on off 2099 is likely to be gone for the new beautiful 2011.anybody can comment on the matrix program 95 or maybe other graphite in the market like crazy or quadra ?
Thanks
Your Message@James:
I have the Program 95 in 5.5 w/ af 302 fitted by Daniel You the designer himself (family friend). Being gaming it since Thanksgiving.
It does feel very stout when you waggle so I would recommend to go a step down or soft step it. Because of this I feel like it’s hard to stop the ball on a dime (not getting the right amount of kick for optimal spin rate) unless I really change CG position for high ball procedure. I did not find this to be the case with other shafts I’ve played which are steel.
However, I was talking to Matrix owner and he did say they designed it to be tighter than steel. Reason for that is graphite shafts are difficult getting out of deep rough which is one of the reasons why tour pros prefer it over steel but designing the program tighter makes it just as easy if not better getting out of the rough. (this is tour rough I’m talking about as these were the feedbacks from tour pros)
I meant they prefer steel over graphite.
Your Message
Thanks for your reply James. That is right that the shaft feels stout and that’s why the fitter stepped down the shafts to my previous miura cb 1005 before i shafted my mire w kbs tour 90.Appreciate your input and can not wait put my matrix program 95( firm and ordered from TSG) with on off 2011.
Cheers
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